The following is an excerpt from an ongoing, journal style writing/book that I am working on. It seems relevant so I wanted to share this part of it. Obviously not fully proofread, so disregard that. Be Blessed!
Juliet and I have done well overall with our committments from a month or two ago. We have done our best to rid ourselves of any remains of vice or sin. Obviously there are always stumbling blocks.
In order to fully be rid of sin, we will need to wait until we leave this life for the next. There is a concept within the idea of salvation by grace that gives more insight into the fact that salvation should be viewed as more of a process than a once and for all situation. Sanctification is that process.
When we come to Christ, and fully give ourselves over to him and When we confess our past sins in true repentance (to God), desiring to turn from them, we enter into a covenantal relationship. We are Born-again into it. Within this covenant are terms and conditions, much like the Old Testament covenant between God and Israel. Christ’s death ended that covenant of sacrifices and ceremonial laws, but kept the morality first presented in the old covenant. By that morality, we are still accountable.
The Ten Commandments are really a summary of all the more than 600 laws to which Israel was actually accountable. As Christians now, only one of the ten commandments is no longer in place, the Sabbath Law. This was the one commandment Jesus laid aside as part of the old ways. He emphasized and deepened the meaning of the others, suggesting that even lusting after a woman could be adulterous.
So while new additions to prior morals were made by Christ, his sacrifice, his Cross, allows us the opportunity for a grace that eliminates our failure to follow this morality. And, make no mistake, we do fail.
Our trust in Christ for salvation is a multi-part relationship. Yes, salvation leads to eternity with him. We long for and look forward to our Heavenly reign with God. But for the time of this life, Sanctification is more of a result of the covenant with Christ. Sanctification involves daily reminding ourselves of this covenant (or perhaps relationship is a better substitute term at this point) and following Christ in true repentance, seeking to turn completely from our sins, but knowing if we fail, Christ is there for us. This relationship involves terms. While faith in Christ does fully wash away sins; past, present and future, it is not an excuse to continue sinning with Christ’s forgiveness as a fall back.
For example, someone who is a heavy drug user turns their life around and comes to Christ. They are forgiven, and truly repent. However, being human and naturally sinful, they begin to drift back into that lifestyle. They do not wish for this, but their past catches up with them. Temptation catches up. Soon they begin trying mild drugs, nothing major. The justification is that because they put their faith in Christ and are forgiven, they will just ask for forgiveness and continue in sin. This is not what salvation is about.
Pornography would probably be a better example, and one most men (even Christian ones) and some women have struggled with at some point. It’s the easiest thing in the world to turn from that sin, accept forgiveness, and say you will stop doing that. It’s a whole different ball game to not be mentally or physically tempted to revisit something that is so readily accessible, and then justify the action by using forgiveness as a fallback.
In both of these situations, assuming the individuals are truly born-again Christians, by succumbing to temptation rather than overcoming it, does Christ continue to forgive them?
I would answer yes, with a stipulation. The idea behind faith in Christ is to become a new creation. We are to aspire to be what we were always meant to be. We are to be above the earthly things, and focused on the Heavenly things. While a Christian can certainly be a professing Christian, truly know he or she is saved, and still fall into sin, to use forgiveness as a crutch to remain in sin results in consequences.
I would say relational problems would be most common. Are we forgiven by Christ? Yes. But will there be repurcussions to our actions. Most decidedly yes.
In 1 Chronicles 21, David is tempted (by Satan it says) into taking a census of his army. For him, this would be a direct thumb in the face of God, who until this point, had fought Israel’s battles for them, even using as few as 300 men in one victory. David’s choice to count his men, shows a lack of faith in God’s deliverance.
So, David is clearly known as a man after God’s own heart. And, we could say he is forgiven, because he certainly repents and attempts to right his wrongs. But, he is not exempt from consequences.
In this particular case, God gives him a choice of his consequences. More often than not in our case, these will happen of their own accord, without our consent. Sin, eliminated by Christ in our lives or not, always has consequences. The benefit is that Christians will not lose their eternal life simply by sinning, but they will invite trouble into their earthly existence.
A son who misbehaves is chastened by a father. The father still loves his son unconditionally, but must punish actions that are sinful. The punishment does not negate the love for the son, but rather demonstrates how much the son is loved. The desire to make the son into a standup guy, who learns to live morally, is the goal of this chastening.
In this way, God also will not hesitate to chasten those who are his. We are made sons of God by our relationship with Christ, and are therefore subject to his law. Christ can cover the sin and mediate between us via his victory on the cross, but the immediate effects of sin are not negated. The consequences remain.
This leads to a rather large debate of whether or not a Christian (that is truly a Christian) can lose their salvation. There are two schools of thought.
- A Christian can always choose not to be a Christian, disown the relationship, and turn from God. This Christian according to some, has lost his salvation.
- With that same example in mind, some would argue that because God created us all, and knew us before we were even born, that He knows ultimately who will choose to love him or reject him. And, that this man who turned is not necessarily lost...
-For one whom God knows will eventually choose him, the turning away may only be temporary, and if anyone knows this it would be God.
-If God knows the individual will later experience an event that brings about repentance, it is conceivable that the Christian has not LOST the salvation, but temporarily set it aside of his own accord, despite God's final plan for him.
-The immediate consequence being that of a consequence, and possible loss of Heavenly reward.
Option 2 is more about God’s sovereignty and the idea that even though we have a free will, it is still limited by God who is above our will.
-That is, we are free to make our own decisions in this life, but we will always have to answer to those decisions. And, we can never escape God’ will for us, that was planned from before we were born.
-That is, we are free to make our own decisions in this life, but we will always have to answer to those decisions. And, we can never escape God’ will for us, that was planned from before we were born.
-This works for our human side because we appear to make our decisions, and God certainly does not FORCE us to love him
-But some would argue it isn’t truly being free.
Still, we are also not robots, so there is an aspect of freedom present.
Still, we are also not robots, so there is an aspect of freedom present.
I like this option more because I know that even as Christian, I constantly stumble in my walk. Knowing that no matter how hard I fall, God has already planned a place for me, gives me encouragement in the rough times. It also means that those who hear God’s call and accept Jesus, are set apart (elected) and cannot lose that. It’s the ultimate assurance of salvation.
Juliet would disagree, and points out that anyone can fully reject God once and for all, and God would likely not bring back someone working only evil against him.
-Still, the Apostle Paul was like our modern day Hitler towards Christians before he had an experience with Christ that turned him completely around and made him the great champion of the faith. This experience would seem to fall more in line with God knowing from before Paul was born, knowing that while Paul would be against him for a time, he would ultimately come to him, and do great things to bring more to him.
-Still, the Apostle Paul was like our modern day Hitler towards Christians before he had an experience with Christ that turned him completely around and made him the great champion of the faith. This experience would seem to fall more in line with God knowing from before Paul was born, knowing that while Paul would be against him for a time, he would ultimately come to him, and do great things to bring more to him.
So, the point is that recently, Juliet and I will both eventually fail at our mission of being perfect Christians. It is probably inevitable since we are still sinful creatures. We can repent and be immediately forgiven, but the consequence comes from how it might affect our relationship. Will we forgive as Christ did for us? Or, will our human nature cause turmoil before final acceptance and encouragement to do better? Only time would tell. One thing is for sure. No matter how “good” someone tries to be, our relationship with Christ is a sanctifying, ongoing process that will not be finished, until we depart for our Heavenly home.
Great post! Very thought provoking. What are your thoughts on "once saved, always saved?" See I believe that "becoming saved" is a life long journey that once we have "finished the race", we are now "saved." Becoming "born again" is not the same as being saved. We become born again when we allow Jesus to come into our hearts and change us within. Also the baptism of the Holy Spirit plays a part in this "born again" conversion. Once we have finished the race we started and ended out our days in victorious living because of Jesus' death and resurrection, then we can call ourselves truly saved!
ReplyDeleteI tend to float back and forth on "once saved, always saved." Obviously that would be the ideal situation for our human minds, and a lot of the reformation reading I've seen lately does emphasize that if God meant for you to be saved, then you will hear the call. Or rather, those who are compelled to Christ at some point in their lives are "sheep hearing the call of the shepherd," and the shepherd will not leave his sheep. Still other sheep will walk the other way. I like this because it gives me hope for friends who know the gospel but choose to ignore in favor of political correctness, or misguided views. Juliet falls more in the camp of it being ongoing, and that someone can choose to completely turn away for good, thereby damning themselves (no matter how "saved" they were before). I have always struggled with assurance of salvation, have followed God my whole life, but not always on the straight and narrow. This season of my life has shown me that I truly am one of His, but I know there are people out there claiming to be saved that don't make any effort towards the "Walk of faith," and simply rely on a prayer one time to get the ticket to heaven...that I'm not so sure I agree with....
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